Intel expects catching up with TSMC in wafer-manufacturing scale to be a slow and gradual process.

“... facets. Uh, I would say the catch-up that we need to do is in scale. You know, like you said, they, they're just a much larger wafer manufacturer today than we are.”

“Um, or and even bigger than, uh, what Samsung is. Catching up in scale will, will be a, an, a slow process and a gradual process.”