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SPEAKER_00 describes the argument that technological maturity could make further progress extremely difficult—requiring a galaxy-sized CERN to advance physics slightly—ending technology-driven civilizational change and making value lock-in more plausible.

Dwarkesh Patel · AGI is still 30 years away — Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu · 17 Apr 2025

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“maybe they would have actually changed more if that change was the result of a technological change in general not the result of information being digitized maybe that culture would have actually changed more if information wasn't as well preserved or technology technology had continued to proceed and the argument is in the future we're going to reach some point at which like you've done all the tech like ideas have just gotten way too hard to find and you need like entire galaxies worth of”
“like you need to make a CERN that's the size of a galaxy to progress physics an inch forward and at that point there's this this like growth in technology just churning over civilization goes away and then you just have the digital thing which which does mean that like a lock-in is more plausible”
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