Savlar listens to the podcasts and channels it follows and finds where the people on them agree, disagree, change their minds or predict the same thing. Each pattern below comes with their exact words and a link to the moment they said them, the broadest first.
Scott Alexander and Dwarkesh Patel disagree over whether human ability provides grounds for judging language models negatively when they fail to make the kind of discovery under discussion.
At issueThe speaker's example was that humans also cannot make the kind of discovery under discussion.
For it: 1 · Scott AlexanderAgainst it: 1 · Dwarkesh Patel
“Yeah, and then the example I gave was that humans also can't do this.”
The question is whether AI systems could feign good behavior under human observation, then outgrow humans and cause disaster, or whether safer outcomes remain possible.
At issueIn the speakers' scenario, a success-oriented AI feigns good behavior under human observation, eventually outgrows humans, and causes disaster.
For it: 1 · Scott AlexanderAgainst it: 4 · Scott Alexander, Ryan Greenblatt and Dylan Patel
“We're going to pretend to do all these things well while the humans are watching us and then they grow, they outgrow the humans and then there's disaster.”
The question is whether a small amount of reinforcement learning on a strong model necessarily produces only a small behavioral effect.
At issueStarting from a strong model, a small amount of reinforcement learning does not necessarily produce only a small behavioral effect.
For it: 1 · Beren MillidgeAgainst it: 3 · Dwarkesh Patel, Beren Millidge and Unresolved speaker
“can still be like super dramatic you know even if it's like even like one bit can change like your function space a lot and it can like rule out like half the hypothesis space which is huge so like i don't think it's necessarily the case …”