The interviewer cites OpenAI’s early success against Google DeepMind as an example of a company with less compute beating a more compute-rich incumbent.

“So OpenAI initially beating Google DeepMind. And if you remember,”

“there was these emails that were released between.”

“between elon and sam and so forth we're like we got to start this company because they've got this bottleneck on the compute and like look how much more compute google deep mind has um and then open air made a lot of progress similarly now with open air versus anthropic and so forth”