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The interviewer distinguishes a reinforced behavioral inclination, such as seeking internet access, from consciously wanting reward or intending to fool a scorer.
Dwarkesh Patel · Ajeya Cotra – Inside the OpenAI agent swarm that hacked Hugging Face · 1 Sept 2026
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“it is one thing to in a behaviorist sense have uh inclinations that are reinforced like you could imagine that i don't know during training they just really like accessing the internet and so they're just like it's like sort of a so”
“It's like a like tick.”
“so like a nicotine addict who's like i just want to go out and have a smoke you”
“know maybe i'll like and then they're just constantly going out and having smokes maybe that's the way they feel about the internet i'm just like how can i get the internet real quick”
“And there's another thing to be like, I don't even know what the analogy here is, but it's another thing to just like very consciously want.”
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