The speaker believes that making whistleblower disclosures to the government legally permissible would change the decisions of some people, independently of legal protections against retaliation.

“say we're doing a secret intelligence explosion i think it's dangerous for these reasons is better than nothing like i think there's going to be like some fraction of people who for which that would make the difference like whether it's just literally allowed or not legally makes a difference independently of whether there's some law that says you're protected from retaliation or whatever just like literally just making it legal um yeah i think that's one thing”