The speaker believes the interviewer overstated the extent to which Anthropic's constitution treats helping users as instrumental rather than an end in itself.

“um open ai's current at least public strategy is more like the ai should be aligned to the human operator or principal and should just like be pursuing their will subject to various constraints or various like things that shouldn't do um well while i and i think i would also say that i think you slightly overstated how much um the anthropic constitution um talks about claude uh treating being helpful to users as instrumental rather than terminal right so like”