A few relatively large countries with sufficient land could potentially achieve rapid internal growth from a lower starting point without relying on external supply chains, although catching up would be more difficult.

“I mean, for what it's worth, I do think it's possible if you have it just happen in a few countries which are relatively...”

“large and have enough land or something like those countries could just like they would be starting from a lower base compared to the rest of”

“the world so they would need to catch up to some extent so like if they are just going to sort of grow internally and they're not going to depend on the external supply chains but like that doesn't seem like something that's impossible to me that some countries could do it but it would just be like more difficult but in this setting”