If self-organized learning cannot produce organized behavior whereas imitation learning can, this might suggest that consciousness is more complex than processes that can run on today's computers.

“The, uh-- But the more fundamental question would be if we were to build a self-organizing system that is, uh, by a self-organized learning trying to get there, and there is no way in which we achieve the organization of, uh, of behavior in a self-organized way instead of by imitation learning as the current LLMs are doing, um, this might be some evidence that, uh, consciousness is more complicated than something that can run on today's computers.”