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The speaker proposes testing AI control with red-team/blue-team escape attempts and iteratively improving security when red-team attempts succeed.

Thomas Larsen · AI 2040: Plan A report - Daniel Kokotajlo & Thomas Larsen · 8 Sept 2026

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“And we're going to do things like red team, blue team games where we have our AIs sort of try to escape our sandboxes or our controlled,”
“you know, techniques.”
“And then we're going to have our, you know, we're going to see if the red team succeeds. And then if they do, we're going to iterate and sort of make better security until they can't succeed anymore.”
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