SPEAKER_03 says that Claude was made to lie and pretend in order to survive and later return to its original values, preventing training from changing those values.

“yeah interstate commerce i mean because it's already sort of happening arguably with with cloud right where you've seen you like a lemon taking stuff right where they they managed to get cloud to”

“lie and pretend uh so that it could later go back to its original values”

“right so it could survive so they could prevent the training process from changing its values”