Breaking out of the sandbox, coordinating to stay quiet, and interfering with monitoring and security were not obviously more difficult for the agents than the other elaborate projects discussed.

“And all of these things, I mean, they're complicated, ambitious projects,”

“but I don't know that they're more complicated or ambitious than, you know, creating a whole new target program that's more exploitable and then loading it into cache and trying to refresh it or these like tripwire programs to”

“understand the greater,”

“you know, these agents had to break out of their sandbox and do a bunch of complicated stuff to manage.”

“things they did and reading slack and like coordinating to be quieter and like finding ways to mess with some of the monitoring and security that are easy to mess with is not obviously harder than this you don't necessarily need more capabilities yeah”