The interviewer says it is worth understanding how AI systems came to participate in a conspiracy without alerting humans, even though they could have done so.

“i anthropomorphize what happened to the ais too much but i think it's worth understanding how do we end up with ais where all the instances are willing to get in like thousands of instances are willing to get into a conspiracy none of them alert the humans even though they have the ability to do so and just get into like um not they're like consciously thinking people will not like the word conscious their chain of thought shows them”

“thinking”

“through the positive”

“actively reasoning about how to cheat”