The speaker considers it pretty plausible that mundane practices such as fixing problems, checking remediation, running evaluations, iterating, and enabling outside scrutiny could be sufficient to manage the situation, although these practices would be costly and slow progress.

“and so i think we would need to move into a somewhat different world for me to feel good about that situation but it's not you know it's not impossible for me to imagine this and i think i think it's pretty plausible that we end up in a world where sort of like”

“really mundane bullshit is sufficient where it's just like you you like spend a bunch of time fixing these problems you put in a bunch of effort you actually like check that you've remediated it reasonably you have a bunch of evals you like are iterating reasonably well on these on these problems um and you actually like have the sufficient transparency that the outside world can check and then in practice that would be sufficient but it just like would be like kind of expensive it would slow things down it would put some sand in the gears it would require like”

“like companies to do somewhat costly things it would maybe require various like targeted government interventions and then we just don't do that because the situation is like a rushed shit show like it's just so easy for me to imagine the situation being like totally manageable but brutally mismanaged in practice in”