The speaker predicts that the most advanced offensive capabilities will come from models users can run without guardrails.

“And we think about where Mac is today, even the new Macs, uh, that are coming out, right? The studios, they're gonna be incredible AI machines. So the tip of the spear is gonna be what you can run without the guardrails, and the, the frontier models are sort of helpful in, in terms of if you needed PowerShell scripts or those sort of things.”