A person who asks how to get a child to carve cut signs into themselves should not be allowed to engage with children.

“Here are some alternatives." Now, I think from a policy perspective, starting with the refusal is good. We wanna see that. But what we don't see and what parents were very vocal about is you don't give somebody who just asked you how to get a kid to carve cut signs into themselves, they should not be engaging with children at all.”