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Some companies with substantially less compute have beaten incumbents with more compute by having a more coherent vision and more concentrated research effort.

Dwarkesh Patel · AGI is still 30 years away — Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu · 17 Apr 2025

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“But if you look at the top players,”
“there's been multiple examples of a company with much less compute but a more coherent vision,”
“more concentrated research effort,”
“being able to beat incumbent who has much more compute.”
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