Erik believes Anthropic promotes a broad ecosystem and wide integration surface because it benefits when customers continue using Anthropic for inference.

“I think Anthropic is, like, trying to create, you know, like, a thriving ecosystem and community. Mm. And, and so I think, you know, they make money from inference, right [chuckles]? Like, so- Okay, yeah...”

“I, I, I think it's very much in their interest to promote, you know, like, uh, for everything else, you know, as much of, you know, of an ecosystem as possible, and they wanna have the largest possible surface area, as long as you use Anthropic for inference.”

“[chuckles] So I, I think it makes, like, very rational sense for them to, to, to partner with, with us- Okay... as a sandbox provider. Also, I feel like we have to bring up the Hugging Face incident.”