The speaker divides alignment into determining the right objective and optimizing it, and expects the need for humans to determine the objective to persist for the foreseeable future.

“Yeah, alignment is sort of the answer, but it's also alignment itself can be kind of decomposed into into like specification of the objective or figuring out what the right objective should be. And then.”

“like actually like achieving or optimizing the objective you've defined and I think the first one is not going to go any way anytime soon”