The speaker argues that new phenomena emerge when agents are placed in collective settings, so their evolutionary history or neural-network training method may matter little to those phenomena.

“collectives that can build societies so you know in a sense this is why i was saying earlier about these objections they kind of fall away when you have these insanely complex um collectives right that are sharing information with each other and and there's also quite an interesting thing here as well which is that it almost doesn't matter um how we evolved or how neural networks were trained because you get new phenomena emerge when they are placed in this kind of collective setting”