Anthropic had broken off from OpenAI by early 2022.

“until I eventually got introduced to Dario and at the time they were wrestling with some of these questions of like should we deploy our models should we make revenue how should we engage with the rest of the world they're just broken off from OpenAI and it's been publicly reported that they were kind of concerned with how they were dealing with deployment so they were wrestling with some of those questions at this point this is like early form of war like early 2022 the sexiest product at the time was like Jasper”