The speaker says he would almost encourage students to experience psychosis and afterward reflect on what was wrong with them, citing Steve's very public two-year journey as an example.

“And so, like, uh, it's almost like I would encourage your students to have psychosis and then come out and go like, "Okay, what was wrong with me?" Right? 'Cause, like, that's what S-Steve just went through, like, a very public two-year journey of this.”