The speaker wanted to move beyond self-evaluated laboratory research toward technology that could be used by millions of people.

“You know, like when you're working on this kind of thing in the lab,”

“like, you know, you asked me, how do we come up with so many interesting fun tasks?”

“you're basically doing your own eval you're grading your own homework like i wanted something more real i wanted something that could actually be used by millions of people in the world and i felt 2024 was when we started dining like end of 2024 that was the right time that we can take some of these technology to actually putting them out in the real world so that's why”