The speaker believes a mix of incentives, penalties, trade, and negotiation could be in the interests of both the United States and China.

“of you know carrots and sticks and trade and going back and forth that we think would be in the interest of both sides another thing worth mentioning is that it's not as big of a gift to China as you might think because security is poor at these companies and so they're probably through their spy networks and through leaks getting most of the information anyway”