The speaker agrees that evolutionary niches and their incentives matter, but finds the evolution of intelligence remarkable and might have expected evolution to favor larger muscles instead.

“oh yeah and just stuff to work with i mean i'm guessing it would be harder to if i was a dolphin um i mean how do you do you can't have fire for example and stuff like that i mean they're probably like the universe of things you can do in water um like inside water is probably lower than what you can do on land um just chemically yeah i do i do agree with this with this viewpoint of these niches and what's”

“what's being incentivized i still find it kind of miraculous that uh i don't i would have maybe expected things to get stuck on like animals with bigger muscles you”