The speaker and Michael Tang were the two undergraduates in Karthik’s lab before other people joined later.

“he's like that he's like a superstar uh when i when i i met him so he uh he was advising my friend michael michael tang who is now an anthropic but they work together a lot we were like the two undergrads in karthik's lab i and then some others joined later as well but yeah shanu is great i i did not know he was like such a superstar until like later on like after i left but yeah”