The speaker says new engineers generally need to enter the workforce nearly at senior level, while retaining foundational software engineering knowledge about system construction and trade-offs.

“It's like you have to generally be better than, you know, almost at the senior level going into this. So like what, what can we-- how do we get there more quickly, right? And so, uh, I'm trying to say that there is still a core bit of like foundational software engineering that is important to have some of these core values of, of sort of how software systems are built and the trade-offs of those systems.”