Erik says Modal was the third project he built after leaving Better, following several unsuccessful attempts.

“Maybe I should do some consulting. And I started building stuff, and I just got like super pumped about this idea that, that eventually became Modal.”

“But actually, I built-- You know, Modal was like the, I think the third thing [chuckles] I built that I got, you know, that... So, so there were like a few attempts before then that, that went nowhere.”