The speaker says owning an entire software-factory system is difficult because of its scope and complexity.

“Yeah. I, I think that's, that is... It, it is a good question, and I think they're, you know, of course, entitled to kind of r- try and sell the products they do.”

“I think it's a hard system to own its entirety. It's a, it's a lot. It's, it's a lot, right?”