A training run that simulates Earth and life evolving for a billion years would not require its designers to understand how intelligence works, because it would let nature and evolution take their course.

“on it for a billion years you know with that amount of compute and and and the thought there is that you don't really need to understand how intelligence works at all if you're building it with that type of training run because there's no insight coming from you it's you're just sort of letting nature do its thing and letting evolution take its course and so so the thought is that we can make those not guaranteed but like a soft upper bound at something like 10 to the 45 and then you can make other sort of soft upper bounds you can think”