The speaker agrees that increasing levels of abstraction still require an overseer, potentially even a CEO, to understand the system's constituent parts well enough to judge its direction.

“... around the factory. But yeah, I, I, I think that there was this part of-- At least the discussion points there, which I am pretty much on, on board with, is, like, increasing levels of abstraction and then somehow there's someone still, even a CEO of a company has to have enough oversight and understanding of, like, different constituent parts to be able to make a judgment on direction, right?”