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The speaker says a third-order perception can occur in which the observer becomes visible to awareness.

Unresolved speaker · Why Leibniz Couldn't Find the Mind Inside the Mill (Joscha Bach) · 2 Nov 2026

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“I also notice that it doesn't stop at the perception of second order. There's also a third order of perception, and the third order is basically where the observer becomes visible.”
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