Fabian Theis says his group has operated this interdisciplinary training model for approximately eight years.

“But then because they are sort of methody, right, and they're quantitative, they can actually put this into a metric or whatever that then turns into a model and in a paper. And I, I think this is a way how, uh-- I mean, we've been doing this now for maybe eight years or so, this, this type of school.”