Erik believes fine-tuning is no longer necessary in many cases because open-source models can perform well without modification.

“You know, both sort of SFT and, and, but also reinforcement learning and things like that. I would also say, you know, fine-tuning is no longer the thing that you kinda have to do. Like, it, it's, it's very optional.”

“Like, you, you can... Open source models, like, work really well just off the shelf too. Back to sandboxes, actually. I forgot to ask you.”