The speaker believes vertical AI companies often start by using frontier models as third-party services to test what is possible.

“Yeah, it's a good call-out, uh, because so far... I mean, I think this is generally true of a lot of, like, vertical AI companies, is like you kinda start where you sort of use the frontier models, like, as third-party services to see what's possible, 'cause they are, like, the very frontier.”