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causal claim

The speaker proposes that consciousness may be a simple training mechanism for self-organizing systems whose operation automatically gives rise to phenomenal experience.

Unresolved speaker · Why Leibniz Couldn't Find the Mind Inside the Mill (Joscha Bach) · 2 Nov 2026

In their words

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“It's basically the simplest way to train a self-organizing system like us. And the way in which it trains it up automatically leads to this phenomenal experience, this experience of what it's like.”
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