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Human observers have never directly seen matter or energy.

Unresolved speaker · Why Leibniz Couldn't Find the Mind Inside the Mill (Joscha Bach) · 2 Nov 2026

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“So nobody has ever seen matter and energy directly. Instead, matter and energy are attempts to systematize observations, and our observations ultimately all come down to discernible differences.”
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Human observers have never directly seen matter or energy. · Savlar