The speaker fears a future without UBI in which society continually reacts to automation by trying to protect existing jobs.

“What I'm afraid of is, so we wrote this scenario,”

“there are a couple of other people with great scenarios,”

“one of them goes by L.”

“Rudolph L. online,”

“I don't know his real name,”

“and his scenario, which when I read it, I was just, oh yeah, obviously this is the way our society would do this, is that there is no UBI, it was just like a constant reactive attempt to protect jobs.”

“in the most venial possible way.”