Starting with a robot's final form factor risks producing an inadequate or short-lived design that must be discarded.

“not going all the way to the final form factor because the chances that the thing you build actually doesn't last it's not good enough so you just end up scratching it anyway you know like it's public news like you know optimists you know already gone through many many iterations and they had to scratch their designs right and i think by iterating with a semi-human form factor and actually putting them out to real customers or and just getting models redeployed”