The speaker says OpenAI and Anthropic initially lacked a clear way to make money, and that some people might argue they still lack one.

“It, it's interesting, right? Like if, if you looked at earlier, and of course, this is what people always reflect to what OpenAI, Anthropic and so on wanted to do. Like, they didn't really know how to make money, and some people might argue they don't even know nowadays, right?”