China's growth, particularly in the 2000s or possibly the late 1990s, is a useful reference for imagining 30% annual growth, though it appears slower than the growth being forecast.

“But at the same time, if you're just asking like what would 30% growth per year like look like, like in terms of like if you're just going to have an intuition for how transformative that would be in concrete terms, then I think looking at China is not such a bad case like you can especially in the 2000s or maybe late 90s like that gives you a good that seems slower than what we're forecasting.”