The speaker says self-driving services may not have eliminated human involvement, but instead moved people to remote locations where passengers cannot see them.

“the times they are but they're certainly involved and there are people and in some sense we haven't actually removed the person we've like moved them to somewhere we can't see them i still think there will be some work as you mentioned going from environment to environment and so i think like there's still challenges to to make self-driving real but i i do agree that it's definitely across a threshold where it kind of feels real unless it's like really teleoperated for example waymo can't go to all the different parts of the city my suspicion is it's like parts of city where we don't get good signal”